tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6420070021149211641.post3708654819394222572..comments2019-06-29T21:02:23.987-04:00Comments on Let There Be Light(house): The Coliseum as Loss LeaderNick - Lighthousehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17319878304631872148noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6420070021149211641.post-37803745284047796342009-01-27T23:04:00.000-05:002009-01-27T23:04:00.000-05:00Ah, then welcome JayK! Glad to have you.Ah, then welcome JayK! Glad to have you.Nickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11753698648862261183noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6420070021149211641.post-4093153547397703042009-01-27T22:29:00.000-05:002009-01-27T22:29:00.000-05:00No,Nick. Tigmet is the same as JayK on CB's blog, ...No,Nick. Tigmet is the same as JayK on CB's blog, but I couldn't figure out how to sign on here as JayK. So I used the "select profile" function and used my AIM account.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6420070021149211641.post-9528991964928030402009-01-27T18:31:00.000-05:002009-01-27T18:31:00.000-05:00Hey guys, welcome to the blog and thank you so muc...Hey guys, welcome to the blog and thank you so much for taking the time to read and comment.<BR/><BR/>First of all, on the Coliseum/lease issue - tigmet is right, so I won't waste your time rehashing his (her?) good points. Gary Bettman, in all his recent interviews, has said the status quo is not acceptable and he has advised Charles Wang to not even think about a new lease until the project is approved.<BR/><BR/>Netminder - the project will be built in phases, but it's approved as a whole. I don't know the exact construction schedule, but I know the Coliseum and Grand Canal zone are first.<BR/><BR/>rvcjohn - You're right that the underground train solution would disturb the fewest people. However, it would also be much more expensive than other options. I wish they could build it but I wouldn't bet on it.<BR/><BR/>day1fan - You're reading my mind. This blog exists to (hopefully) mobilize people who care. I would love to do all those and I'd love all your help to do it.<BR/><BR/>You guys can always email me direct - lettherebelighthouse@gmail.comNickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11753698648862261183noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6420070021149211641.post-65825772475700871062009-01-27T17:32:00.000-05:002009-01-27T17:32:00.000-05:00Hey Nick:Great site. I wish you nothing but the bi...Hey Nick:<BR/><BR/>Great site. I wish you nothing but the biggest success in getting the word out.<BR/><BR/>Have there been any thoughts about building on the acres in sections, or is this going to approve the entire 100 acres. Is it possible for Wang to receive a vote and say, refurnish the Coliseum and the next 25 acres, so this gives Wang at least SOME indication that the TOH really wants to do this?Paul Kreischerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09133347237868946028noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6420070021149211641.post-17351223287186205842009-01-27T15:37:00.000-05:002009-01-27T15:37:00.000-05:00OK, but you're still advocating -- not so much adv...OK, but you're still advocating -- not so much advocating, as just settling for -- a model of a stand-alone revamped arena where the Islanders can make money out of a better lease than the one they have now. I guess it's possible that with a better lease and a renovated arena, they could make some money. I don't know. But it would never be that much. I'm trying to be flexible here, but that model probably isn't that profitable. <BR/><BR/>And if that stand-alone area with a better lease was a truly viable model, with an acceptable rate of return, somebody would have bid it in the RFP process. Nobody did. And nobody will in what we can assume would be a second RFP process that the Coliseum would put out if the Lighthouse was killed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6420070021149211641.post-91987366933698192452009-01-27T15:30:00.000-05:002009-01-27T15:30:00.000-05:00Thanks for the answer. I'm not assuming SMG will b...Thanks for the answer. I'm not assuming SMG will be. Why can't another company be hired? I'm not asking for anyone to get rolled over but if I'm correct. The Islanders do not receive parking or food concessions and must give up 10% of the game to every game. There has to be a way where the Isles can recieve food profits.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6420070021149211641.post-1909805038989636812009-01-27T14:35:00.000-05:002009-01-27T14:35:00.000-05:00Isles316: It's a good question about SMG, but you'...Isles316: It's a good question about SMG, but you're forgetting the fact that SMG also has a role in negotiations. It wants to be the manager of a spankin' brand new arena, with concerts and all sorts of events. It knows that the ability to attract that is limited in a stand-alone, which as has been noted by so many people over at Botta's blog, is not a model being pursued ANYWHERE anymore. So your assumption is that they can get SMG to take some lease arrangement that is so one-sided for the Isles that Wang can make money as a result of the generous lease. In the negotiations, which is what Nick accurately called what is going on, you can't assume that SMG is going to be some pigeon ready to be rolled at the end of the process. It isn't.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6420070021149211641.post-52901622908511842852009-01-27T13:56:00.000-05:002009-01-27T13:56:00.000-05:00Nick, I've asked you this before but I want to kno...Nick, I've asked you this before but I want to know the answer so I can explain it to people.<BR/><BR/>What happens in 2015 when the lease is up with SMG? Why is it so impossible that Wang can't sign a new agreement with the county for a situation where the team can make money with a new lease agreement and a new management group?<BR/><BR/>Why can't Wang invent Wang Management Company and acquire all the rights to all the concessions and ticket money for the entire venue? Concerts? Boat shows etc? <BR/><BR/>I'm obviously a Lighthouse supporter. It's great for the town and county. However, if it doesn't go through, why is something written in the above impossible?<BR/><BR/>I just want the facts as to why it's impossible. I'm not saying it is possible or it should happen or I'm questioning Wang or the Lighthouse, but it's the only question I don't have the answer for when it comes to the Coliseum.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6420070021149211641.post-61038356777743090302009-01-27T13:45:00.000-05:002009-01-27T13:45:00.000-05:00This is the kind of information that needs to be s...This is the kind of information that needs to be shouted from the mountain top. The only way to get the residents of the Town of Hempstead to pressure their elected officials to get behind this project is to refute the perception of Charles Wang as a money grubbing land grabber and to convince them of the huge benfits of the Lighthouse Project.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6420070021149211641.post-18636642156458289272009-01-27T12:57:00.000-05:002009-01-27T12:57:00.000-05:00The guys from the HBO Entourage are big Isles fans...The guys from the HBO Entourage are big Isles fans. Kevin Connolly and the producer specifically.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6420070021149211641.post-83271900548862366562009-01-27T12:52:00.000-05:002009-01-27T12:52:00.000-05:00Nick.Have you considered trying to mobilize local ...Nick.<BR/>Have you considered trying to mobilize local biz people, celebs, anyone who cares and might help with some kind of PR effort? There must be some high profile, recognizable fans (ie.Christie) of this team who care enough to help with a radio spot, a local tv spot, some sort of promo or appearance or anything to light a fire under the collective tuccus of those who want this done and those who aren't paying attention yet. This kind of thing can't hurt, and sometimes it can save the day.day1fanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09768212837636487424noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6420070021149211641.post-41974294242817273722009-01-27T11:58:00.000-05:002009-01-27T11:58:00.000-05:00thanks for setting this up nick. i find the secret...thanks for setting this up nick. i find the secret stairs/lirr connection info fascinating. i wonder if that could be revived. was the entire route of that train going to be underground? did they actually build any of it? you wouldn't have to disturb anybody with an underground train.rvcjohnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13023179577958720647noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6420070021149211641.post-56712885234242990302009-01-27T11:35:00.000-05:002009-01-27T11:35:00.000-05:00The bigger point is that the land's owner, Nassau ...The bigger point is that the land's owner, Nassau County, wants it developed. Mr. Wang and Mr. Rechler are carrying out the wishes of the land's owner. If all Nassau County wanted was the Coliseum refurbished, they would have done that a decade ago. What they want--what they think the county needs, in the big picture--is a development to anchor the center of the county and pump cash into the depressed areas around it.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08980733211166528952noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6420070021149211641.post-70463651352939484452009-01-27T11:13:00.000-05:002009-01-27T11:13:00.000-05:00Great siteGreat siteAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com